Disillusion ST

Is this version with parity to the steam release?

Perfectly authentic visuals , indistinguishable from bryce3D / Povray renders or early Macromind games . Hovewer the game itself is unbearably boring .. most dialogue is bland or quirky for the sake of quirky , and the gameplay merely acts as a sloggy thickener of sort , so you don't overdose on cutscenes (i would gladly just watch all of them like a movie). Sorry . I just couldn't help but not care the slightest about the characters or what happens next .

No offense . Wish it to get better at the release .

will the game receive further optimization before its final release?

Just to briefly add an additional opinion to this discussion... For me, the RNG mechanics were never really questionable. They achieve what they set out to accomplish very well, and it clicked for me almost immediately. 

There is no shortage of games that cater to maximizing fun and pure engagement & progress. This game seeks to be something different. It would seem that this game could be described as, among many other things, an experiment to test how the removal of some quality-of-life features typical of adventure games and rpgs can emulate a particular experience and induce a specific mood and state of mind in the player. 

Not all experiments succeed, of course, and in this case success can hardly be measured empirically, but for me this works perfectly, and only seems to be getting better as the dev tweaks and iterates on the concept.

As has been said, this game does an excellent job of synthesizing aspects of Samsara as the concept has been interpreted in different ways by various Eastern strains of thought. It succeeds in transposing this synthesis into an experience for the player. This was probably difficult for the dev to conceptualize, and the transposition was probably even more of a challenge. It would be a shame for that to be left on the table.

Obviously this is not going to click for everyone. But it is much better for that. This game, even in its current state, leaps well above the lowest common denominator. It's very special and I want the dev to know that there are many people who appreciate what they are creating here. Can't wait for the release, I know many many people who will be interested in playing this. 

Cool concept for a "sequel" but feels unfinished like a beta version of the first game. 

I'm a little confused why the game is so RNG? The orbs make it a bit more easy to navigate but in the end its more just like a second chance in the RNG loop. 

30% of the zones could just be scrapped cause they are super boring. hate being thrown into the same zone over and over again cause RNG. 

This is a worse version of the first game, I get its in beta but with the release getting closer this is very disheartening to see.

I think this is a phenomenal piece of art. I think the RNG mechanics and "wandering" perfectly encapsulate Samsara. The worldbuilding and atmosphere are both unrivaled by most indie games. Between this and the original I have been very inspired (though my medium isn't game creation). 

The art style is so unique and interesting, and the music fits perfectly. I couldn't describe the feelings I got while playing the game sometimes, it was trance-like and almost scary and confusing at times, in the best ways.

I think this is a niche of gaming that will turn some people off heavily, but for people like myself, it is one I have been looking forward to very much. Even if wandering felt a little aimless at times, that fit with the themes enough for me to still feel engrossed. It felt like I was living in a loop, and I got excited for even small changes.

I'm sad to hear there likely won't be another Disillusion game after this, because I think you do incredible work. It genuinely feels like art, and I won't ever forget these games. I doubt ST will be a big commercial success, but that's not what art is about. I think your vision is unique and what you have done with it is inspiring. Thanks for the great game!

I have been following since the announcement of this title, and it's been a pleasure to watch the game take shape. I do think there are issues with the title currently, but even if the game released in a state similar to this I would enjoy it very much. When this game releases I will be playing it a ton and shilling it to my friends, for sure.

Game still feels unpolished- I've been following this game since its first announcement and the same issues still plague this title. 

THE RNG is a horrible idea in terms of how to get progression. 

Being stuck and to the mercy of some random RNG loop to get something interesting to finally happen. 

The most common zones in the "RNG prize pool" being bland basic grey maps that are impossible to tell apart from one another. I felt like in the original game every single floor had a purpose and it stood out to you all of them were unique but in this game, all of them are just depressing grey dull area's (COLOR VOMIT FTW!) 

Cherub race is still unbeatable- 

the UI is still glitchy and confusing 

the controls are horrible

Pacifist mode leaves a bunch to be desired- its impossible to find any sort of room in this game, its just RNG, no matter how a door looks it just doesn't matter, cause you end up in the same place over and over again. just to get to a cool zone just to be sent right back to the same lame snow area. 

I was in a call with all four of my friends, all of us loved the OG and when we were done with the game we were just like "thats it?" I feel so much time went into these 3D animations which are so beautiful and look fantastic and fits the early PC gaming vibe so darn well.

and not enough time into creating the zones, and a proper progression system. 

Just finished the game and all I'll say is that it has potential, but its early state shows.

Weird question, but what is the font used on this page?

Played the original and currently playing this. Liking it so far, but one question: is anything currently missable? The last game was a major case of "guide dang it" and I feel like I keep picking the wrong dialogue options.

Amazing game! it's got a really cool atmosphere and interesting characters, the story and world is very interesting also, i got sucked in for hours. the combat is kinda clunky and i feel you miss (even if you do choose attack type based on enemy) and get swarmed too often, but it's not too bad once you get a decent sword.

though i must ask, could it be possible to add an option to keep your weapons on death? it's really hard to come across a decent weapon, at least i only found one about 6 hours in and that let me deal with foes more easily, but it was pretty disappointing to lose it once i died, especially since you keep everything else... plus, i think it'd be neat if you could get to collect all swords at once at some point without resorting to save scumming.

hope it'll be out soon, cheers!

Ok, I have a lot to say about this game. I think it's really promising and has a lot of effort put into it, but there are some issues that kind of need to be addressed. However, I will get the positives out of the way first.

It's obvious this game is a love letter to LSD Dream emulator. The graphics and animations are close by proxy. There are also plenty of other references such as Hylics, Yume Nikki, ENA, Lain, and a pinch of Greek Mythology. I am pretty much a sucker for those types of games anyways, so I mean this in a positive way if anything.

The dialogue is also surprisingly snappy. There is a lot of philosophy going on in the interactions, which is honestly fine. Melpomene, or Mel as I prefer to call here, is a standout character, she is told to be the gloomy, depressing goddess of Disillusion's world, yet her interactions with Golem make her surprisingly more nuanced than expected from your typical RPG sidekick. The other interactions in the game are also lifted with the strong dialogue.

It's also impressive that you managed to get all of this done in RPG Maker. There are already a lot of games that push the engine to it's limits, but this is one of the more impressive ones. I never really imagined someone would make a 3D game of this caliber.

Sadly, this is where the positives end, cuz there are a lot of issues that I must go over.

For one, we must talk about the combat system. The original Disillusion Game seemed to have inherited Hylic's combat system. Here, it was scrapped for a more 3D like combat system. It’s cool in theory, right? Well… it’s also broken. The RNG seems to really hate hard attacks because I feel like they never land. Accuracy is usually indicated via textboxes, yet it seems like I end up with blanks whenever I press G. What's even worse is that it's easy to get ganged up by so many enemies. Even worse, dying really no stakes whatsoever. Yume Nikki has this issue too, but there there are actual consequences when you ‘die’. Here, you just get teleported to yet another random room. You also can’t really get level-ups either, so there is no real incentive to win battles aside from just exploring whatever room you are currently in.

The card system is also worth talking about. It sadly suffers from the similar issue of being ambitious in concept but broken in practice. The person who goes second has an immeasurable advantage, making winning ultimately RNG dependent. The other mechanic I would like to talk about is the Cherub system, which basically gives you a pet that you can feed and take care of. It doesn’t seem fully fleshed out though, since you can’t really interact with it that much aside from animations of races.

The biggest issue, however, is the game’s progression. I get that surrealist games tend to have a pretty awkward relationship with game progression. Yume Nikki and LSD Dream Emulator prioritize exploration over game progression anyways, while Hylics is linear despite the surrealist presentation. Disillusion tries to combine both aspects, but the execution really suffers as a result. Everything is randomized in this game. The only way to go from Point A to B is through interacting doors, but the locations you arrive are randomized for every door you go in. It doesn’t take long until you realize that the game basically becomes variance hell, especially in Combat mode The game is aware of this though, but it just doesn’t make for a satisfying experience.

Lastly, the environments are kind of a mixed bag. I will have to applaud the creator for making good use of animations throughout this game, but the interactive aspect is largely a mixed bag. There are some cool zones, namely the bright and colorful LSD-inspired, church and city environments, but also a bunch of dead grey zone with no life to them. This was likely intentional since it fits the story, but it doesn’t take long to notice that some of the rooms are just recycled with slightly modified textures.

Overall, I really want to like this game. There is no denying that there are a ton of cool ideas. And while some of those ideas this game has delivered, the overall product feels more like an interactive art project than a game. There isn’t anything wrong with that, but I just wish the mechanics of the game were as good as the presentation.

i am in love, D9 bladee, dear gatekeeper

Hello, maybe someone has already asked this, but I couldn't find any information about it. When is the release planned for the Steam platform?

Alright, we got an update about an hour ago, and I've been playing the hell out of the last version. Can I get a functional link to the discord, to get some help on transferring my file over?